Difficulty understanding for outsider
I just wanted to chime in and say that as someone who has not had any involvement with physical therapy (and was brought to this page from just clicking through Wikipedia), after reading this article, I still have no idea what exactly physical therapy is. There is a lot of info on who physical therapists are as far as their education and their interaction with other health professionals, but still, what exactly is physical therapy? Gd8775 (talk) 19:46, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Physical Therapy Sports Medicine Salary Video
"Massage" has got to go !
I would like to propose that the current definition of "massage" as it is stated, should be changed. If it is, as it remains, we should include in the "massage" section, physiotherapy, osteopathy, chiropractic, even possibly nursing, among others. What I propose is that all the so-called massage techniques become "bodywork" - "massage" is a type of bodywork, as is physiotherapy, as is shiatsu, as is soft tissue therapy etc., etc., as such, it should be listed among the types of bodywork, rather than being a specific category in itself. The term "massage" is pretty much defunct now, it seems to include ANY technique that involves touching a person, and that they not be a physio, osteo, or chiro. I will post this propsal about the various bodywork discussions for some feedback. I think that Wiki is a great starting point to delineate and structure the types of bodywork that exist around the world. (Euripides 03:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC))
Well, 6 years later Massage Envy is practically as big as KFC-- so the term "massage" is pretty much *in vogue* now! Yes, the MTs are trying to divide the health world in half: Surgeons and Massage Therapists. And they wish to replace CBT (psychotherapy) too. They sure don't lack confidence. Of course massage is *heart and hands* and eventually the voracious MTs will be re-classified as some sort of PT and earn their Health Insurance Reimbursements (say by earning a 4 yr degree)-- but right now there are only a few States (USA) who have not caved in to them. TheLordSayeth (talk) 11:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Prescriptive Authority
I'm curious if Physical Therapists (DPT's) have prescriptive authority to write for medicines related and beneficial to their scope of practice (muscle relaxants, anti-inflammatory, pain meds, etc.). I seem to recall hearing that within the U.S.A. PT's have limited prescriptive authority but it depends on the State where they practice and that PT's practicing within the U.S. Military do have prescriptive authority. It would make sense. It might be interesting to include in the article since many people, even if wrongly so, seem to believe that only "real" doctors are able to prescribe medicine (even though, at least in the U.S.A., MD's aren't the only prescribers and even some non-doctor professionals also have prescriptive authority- such as Nurse Practitioners and Physician Assistants). --Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.133.42.16 (talk) 18:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
And also Podiatric Physicians -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.149.239.158 (talk) 10:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Kinesiotherapy
There seems to be a merge to be done with Kinesiotherapy. I believe that the reason for those two sets of articles partly comes from a translation discrepancy, and for cultural reasons. In France & Belgium, Physical therapists are called Kinesiotherapists. In French-speaking Switzerland and Quebec, those professionals are called Physical therapists. To complicate things further, French people believe that Physiotherapy is a subset of Kinesiotherapy (namely, if I am right -- not being an expert myself -- physiotherapy seems to be used to describe part of orthopedic therapy: electrical muscle stimulation, sonography, etc...).
If I'm right, at the time of creation of the first schools, France and Belgium decided to generalize the Physiotherapist term to a more generic "Kinesiotherapist" word. Merge and explain? ;) NicDumZ ~ 06:37, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Education section cleanup?
It seems to me the Education section could use cleanup. In particular the long lists of lettered items under "Curriculum related to Patient/Client Management..." are hard (for me) to read. Either the content of each bullet could be summarized, or the lists could be reformatted.
Instead of:
- General topic 1: blah blah blah. Blah includes a. blah, b. blah, c. blah...
- General topic 2: blah blah blah. Blah includes a. blah, b. blah, c. blah...
etc.
this might be better:
- General topic 1: blah blah blah. Blah includes
- Blah blah
- Blah blah
- Blah blah
- General topic 2: blah blah blah. Blah includes
- Blah blah
- Blah blah
- Blah blah
etc.
So, summarize, reformat or leave it alone? I am willing to take this on if others think it would be useful. Dedrick (talk) 17:46, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Almost no mention of pain?
I am not a trained medical practitioner. My only interaction with PT was as a patient. My main symptom was sciatica from a ruptured L5-S1 disc. Yes, I had movement issues but pain was the reason I had to be hospitalized. I was treated successfully (intra-dural? injection) by a Sports Medicine Orthopedist. I was under the impression that in my case my PT instruction was to control / avoid pain and secondarily to enhance movement. I don't understand why this Wikipedia article almost totally omits pain remediation as an objective of PT. TheLordSayeth (talk) 13:29, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Efficiency?
Are there any study showing the efficiency of physical therapy? Is there a debate on how much of a placebo some techniques linked with physical therapy are?
Is physical therapy 100% scientific? Proven? Efficient? -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.14.168.181 (talk) 02:25, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Physical Rehabilitation Technicians
I was wondering if we should add a section on the educational requirements in the province of Quebec, where physiotherapists must complete a bachelor's degree plus a master's degree to have access to the profession. There is also the fact that several CEGEPs in the province, such as Dawson College and Collège Montmorency, offer career/technical programs that lead to the profession of a physical rehabilitation technician (or in French, "thérapeute en réadaptation physique"). These people must not be mixed up with physiotherapist assistants or aides because they are considered professionals all over Canada. --MaxAMSC (talk) 20:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Military Physiotherapists
Do you think another section should be made on the profession of a military physiotherapist? Their education, responsibilities, etc. could be explained. --MaxAMSC (talk) 20:21, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Opening Paragraph
The sentence in the opening section that states that physical therapists work at times with occupatonal therapists and speech therapists is unneeded. They also work with MDs, DOs, DPMs, DMDs, DDSs, DCs, NPs, RNs, COTAs, CNAs, social workers, and other clinicians. Other pages explaining other professions do not have the other professions listed. What is more is that by degree a 'speech therapist' graduates with a degree in speech language pathology. For this to be an accurate encyclopedia that should be reflected. {Equanimous1 (talk) 02:00, 11 March 2012 (UTC)}-- Preceding unsigned comment added by Equanimous1 (talk o contribs) 01:58, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Interesting discussion. Actually I (a PT) think the mention of OTs and ST (SLPs) in the lead was appropriate, since every "rehab department" includes all three professions. It's a useful bit of information, whereas the current wording ("other medical services") is too general to be of worth. It's now just a "duh" statement. -- Brangifer (talk) 03:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Travel Physical Therapy
Added a section on travel physical therapy in the specialty area. I'm new to Wikipedia -- please check it and make sure I followed form properly. :-) OnwardOGH (talk) 22:31, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
This section was removed, but I see no explanation for doing so. Why has this happened?
Because of the rising need for qualified physical therapists, many healthcare and physical therapy facilities have opted to hire travel occupational therapists. These PTs agree to work temporary assignments, often out of state, to fill an existing staffing void. A typical assignment runs between 8 and 26 weeks, with work weeks consisting of 36-40 hours .
Travel physical therapists typically enjoy much higher wages: $113,500/year for travelers, versus $70,700/year for their permanent-position counterparts . Travel therapists working with agencies will also enjoy benefits such as free housing, health/medical insurance, travel reimbursement, loyalty bonuses, and a 401k plan.
While a common choice, working with an agency is not a requirement; they may also choose to work as an IC (Independent Contractor). In this scenario, the traveling physical therapist retains the fees and profit that the agency would have earned, but they also take on the tasks of managing their own housing arrangements, benefits, taxes, and so on . An IC may also have their pay come in a less consistent fashion -- the delay in pay from their hiring facility can be as much as 45 days .
Travel Physical therapists most commonly enter the specialty at the age of 21-30(43%), or over the age of 50 (22%). Location (49%) and salary (28%) are cited as the biggest draws for travel physical therapists when selecting a position .
OnwardOGH (talk) 15:15, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
this really does vary a lot. depending on where you are situ. I know my husband is on the road a lot and there is very little diff in pay packets between him and his perm colleagues.Docsim (talk) 04:15, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Physical therapy / physiotherapy
User:PhysioPlanet, I have reverted some of your edits because they didn't improve the article and/or violated our manual of style. For example, wikilinking physical therapists in the Physical therapy article was a self-referencing wikilink. Redirects are often bolded, as in the case you changed.
What I can't figure out is how you managed to remove the existing redirect at Physiotherapist without any discussion. That's not allowed. It's an old decision that both Physical therapist and Physiotherapist are supposed to redirect to Physical therapy and any content merged into the main article.
If you disagree, let's discuss it here rather than edit war. Per WP:BRD, I have Reverted your Bold edit, and now we need to Discuss until a consensus is reached. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:47, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Other perspectives needed
As someone who is attending undergraduate school to potentially attend graduate school studying to be a physical therapist, I think there are some things that could be clarified when it comes to what physical therapy is exactly. I think I have enough background knowledge on the topic that I have dug into other sources as well as personal experience around the field, but for outsiders who are beginning to learn about the topic, they could still stray from the article feeling a little less than more knowledgeable. I think the first paragraph with the broad overview isn't bad at all, but maybe "dumbing down" the following paragraphs when it gets into more specific areas of PT would be beneficial to readers. Trying to sound more educated in the article is less relevant than getting the proper information across to people viewing this webpage. AllmarasCasey (talk) 23:45, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- ^ "Occupational Outlook Handbook: Physical Therapists"
- ^ "Travel Therapists FAQs"
- ^ "Guide to Travel Therapy Jobs"
- ^ Travel Nurse Insights: Barry W. Padgett 1st Edition 2009 p.14
- ^ Travel Nurse Insights: Barry W. Padgett 1st Edition 2009 p.14
- ^ "Guide to Travel Therapy Jobs"
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